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Wanderers movie Ducky Boy - Mark Lesly

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Oct 14th, 2007
Boston w/ Ducky friends and Mark Lind of the Ducky Boys band

Jan 19th, 2007
Two Ducky Boys in a Ducky House

Dec 20th, 2006
Black 47, Pat St. John, & Chess Sets

Oct 28th, 2006
The Warriors vs The Wanderers

Oct 21st, 2006
Ducky reunion 2006

Sept 30th, 2006
Ducky Slingshot Victims - Lou & Kevin

Aug 22nd, 2006
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Aug 19th, 2006
Konrad Sheehan at Van Courtlandt Park

June 12th, 2006
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October 28th, 2006 entry - "The Warriors" vs "The Wanderers"

If you've been following my diary here, this entry seems out of place... I'm working on a documentary of the Ducky Boys and Fordham Baldies - and they are gangs from the movie "The Wanderers", not "The Warriors" !?!?

Well if you did think that, I applaud you for two big reasons:

First off, thank you for reading these diary entries -- Believe it or not, I spend a lot of time & thought writing these, so I appreciate when people like you take the time to read them...

Secondly, if you know the difference between "the Wanderers" and "the Warriors", you are a rare breed... It seems that when I tell new people (especially non-Bronxites) about my documentary project on these two gangs from "the Wanderers", a large percentage get confused with the gangs from "the Warriors".

I can't blame people for getting confused... Both movies came out around the same time. Both movies featured many various New York City gangs. And both movies had one of their most pivotal scenes in the Bronx. Also both movies had actor Konrad Sheehan as a gang leader (but thats not as well-known as it should be) -- see my Aug 19th, 2006 diary entry for details of my interview with him.

Also, I have heard quite a few comparisons between the gangs of the two movies -- The Turnbull AC's and Orphans of "the Warriors" are forever going to be compared to the Fordham Baldies and Ducky Boys of "the Wanderers". I'm not sure how intentional or valid these gangs similarities are, but its out there in cyberspace if you look for it.

The similarities end there -- The Wanderers were a 60's Bronx gang, while The Warriors were a 1970's Brooklyn gang. Also the plots were COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I'll admit they were both great movies that I recommend highly if you are inclined to like NYC gang movies (my bias for the Bronx has to give "the Wanderers" the edge tho)

Now that I cleared that up, why am I writing about the Warriors today? Well, one of the things I do for fun is go to Chiller Theatre conventions around Halloween. Its not easy to explain what Chiller is in a sentence or two, so check the link at -- This year they had a reunion of the cast of "the Warriors" movie, so I figured I'd take this chance to try and clear up some Warrior/Wanderer confusion and to show off the pics I was able to get while there... I hope you enjoy them.

The whole cast was really cool, but I have to say that Terry "Vermin" Michos,Dorsey "Cleon" Wright and Apache Ramos were my favorites. They were sincerely appreciative that I was there and had interest in them and made it more than just an autograph/photo thing... I think it might be because Apache & Dorsey are Bronx natives, but that just be my Bronx bias again... LOL

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James Hannon and Michael Beck from the Warriors

Me with Michael Beck ("Swan").

James Hannon and  Deborah Van Valkenburgh from the Warriors

Deborah Van Valkenburgh ("Mercy") and me.

James Hannon with Richard Hill and Terry Michos from the Warriors

Robert Hill ("Cyrus"), me and Terry Michos ("Vermin")

James Hannon and Apache Ramos from the Warriors

Me and Apache Ramos (Orphan Gang)

James Hannon and Dorsey Wright from the Warriors

Dorsey Wright ("Cleon") and me

James Hannon and David Harris and Brian Tyler from the Warriors

David Harris ("Cochise"), me and Brian Tyler ("Snow")

Warriors signed cast photo

Cast Photo signed

Orphans - Apaches Ramos

Apache Ramos and Paul Greco from the movie

Warriors signed cast photo

Another signed cast photo

This wasn't from today at Chiller, but I cant leave out my picture with Konrad Sheehan up at Van Courtlandt Park in the Bronx from August, 2006

James Hannon and Konrad Sheehan of the Warriors

Konrad Sheehan and me

Konrad Sheehan from the Warriors

Konrad Sheehan as
The Punks Gang Leader

And neither Wanderers- or Warriors-related, but Anthony Michael Hall was at Chiller Theatre today, and I was able to grab a picture with him. He's on the TV show "The Dead Zone", but he will forever be the geek from the 1980's John Hughes movies "Sixteen Candles", "Weird Science" and "The Breakfast Club"

Anthony Michael Hall and James Hannon

Anthony Michael Hall and me


Heres some excellent Warriors Movie links that you really should know about:

Stone Greaser Warriors Page -- A great page about the Warriors from a standup guy who's helped me out with some leads on the Ducky Boys and Fordham Baldies -- Dont forget to check out the re-enactment of the Warriors Subway trip at the site

The Warriors Movie Site -- This has EVERYTHING you could possibly want to know about any little detail of "the Warriors"

Armies of the Knight -- Excellent message forum devoted to "the Warriors" -- Interesting article about the making of "the Warriors" -- The Warriors page on the Internet movie Database.

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